Franklin Expedition

[peter]

Name Position Age Ship Birthplace

Andrews Joseph Captain of the Hold 35 Erebus Edmonton, Middlesex
Armitage Thomas Gun-room Steward 40 Terror Chatham, Kent
Arthur Daniel Quartermaster 35 Erebus Aberdeen, Scotland
Aylmore Richard Gun-room Steward 24 Erebus Southampton, Hampshire
Bailey John Able Seaman 21 Terror Leyton, Essex
Bates John Able Seaman 24 Terror London, Middlesex
Bell William Quartermaster 36 Erebus Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland
Berry Alexander Able Seaman 32 Terror Fifeshire
Best Charles Able Seaman 23 Erebus Fareham, Hampshire
Blanky Thomas Ice Master Terror ?
Braine William Private 31 Erebus Oakhill, Somerset
Bridgens John Subordinate Officers' Steward 26 Erebus Woolwich, London
Brown James W. Caulker 28 Erebus Deptford, Kent
Brown Samuel Boatswain's Mate 27 Erebus Hull, Yorkshire
Bryant David Sergeant 31 Erebus Shepton Montague, Somerset
Burt Thomas Armorer 22 Erebus Wickam, Hampshire
Cann George J. Able Seaman 23 Terror Battersea, Middlesex
Chambers George Cabin boy 18 Erebus Woolwich, London
Closson William Able Seaman 25 Erebus Shetland, Scotland
Collins Henry Foster Second Master Erebus ?
Coombs Charles Able Seaman 28 Erebus Greenwich, Kent
Couch Edward Mate Erebus ?
Cowie John Stoker 32 Erebus Bermondsey, Surrey
Crispe Samuel Able Seaman 24 Terror Lynn, Norfolk
Crozier Francis Rawden Moira Captain Terror ?
Daly James Private 30 Terror Westneath, Ireland
Darlington Thomas Caulker 29 Terror Plymouth, Devon
Des Voeux Charles Frederick Mate Erebus ?
Diggle John Cook Cook 36 Terror Westminster, London
Downing John Quartermaster Erebus Plymouth, Devon
Dunn Francis Caulker's Mate 25 Erebus Llanelli, Wales
Evans Thomas Cabin boy 18 Terror Deptford, Kent
Fairholme James Walter Lieutenant Erebus ?
Farr Thomas R. Captain of the Maintop 32 Terror Deptford, Kent
Ferrier Robert Able Seaman 29 Erebus Perth
Fitzjames James Commander Erebus London?
Fowler William Purser's Steward 26 Erebus Bristol, Somerset
Franklin Sir John Captain Erebus Spilsby, Lincolnshire
Geater Josephus Able Seaman 32 Erebus London, Middlesex
Genge Edward Subordinate Officers' Steward 21 Terror Gasport, Hampshire
Gibson William Subordinate Officers' Steward 22 Terror London, Middlesex
Goddard William Captain of the Hold 39 Terror N. Yarmouth, Norfolk
Golding Robert Cabin boy 19 Terror Deptford, Kent
Goodsir Harry D.S. Assistant Surgeon Erebus ?
Gore Graham Lieutenant Erebus ?
Gregory John Engineer Erebus ?
Hammond John Private 32 Terror Bradford, Yorkshire
Handford John Able Seaman 28 Terror Sunderland
Hartnell John Able Seaman 25 Erebus Brompton, Kent
Hartnell Thomas Able Seaman 23 Erebus Chathman, Kent
Healey Joseph Private 29 Erebus Manchester, Lancashire
Heather William Private 37 Terror Battersea, Surrey
Hedges William Corporal 30 Terror Bradford, Wiltshire
Helpman E.J. Clerk in Charge Terror Devon
Hickey Cornelius Caulker's Mate 24 Terror Limerick, Ireland
Hoar Edmund Captain's Steward 23 Erebus Portsea, Hampshire
Hodgson George Henry Lieutenant Terror ?
Honey Thomas Carpenter Terror ?
Honey Samuel Blacksmith 22 Terror Plymouth, Devon
Hopcraft Robert Private 38 Erebus Nottingham, Notts
Hornby Frederick John Mate Terror ?
Irving John Lieutenant Terror ?
Jerry William Able Seaman 29 Terror Pembroke, Wales
Johns Robert Able Seaman 24 Erebus Penryn, Cornwall
Johnson Thomas Boatswain's Mate 28 Terror Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
Johnson William Stoker 45 Terror Lindsey, Lincolnshire
Johnson Charles Able Seaman 28 Terror Halifax, Nova Scotia
Jopson Thomas Captain's Steward 27 Terror Marylebone, Middlesex
Kenley John Quartermaster 44 Terror St. Monance, Fifeshire, Scotland
Kinnaird George Able Seaman 23 Terror Hastings, Sussex
Lane John Boatswain Terror ?
Lawrence Edwin Able Seaman 30 Terror London, Middlesex
Le Vesconte H.T.D. Lieutenant Erebus Devon?
Leys David Able Seaman 37 Terror Montrose, Scotland
Little Edward Lieutenant Terror ?
Lloyd Henry Able Seaman 26 Erebus Christiansen, Norway
Male Reuben Captain of the Forecastle 27 Terror Woolwich, London
Manson Magnus Able Seaman 28 Terror Shetland, Scotland
Mark William Able Seaman 24 Erebus Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
McBean Giles Alexander Second Master Terror ?
McConvey Thomas Able Seaman 24 Erebus Liverpool, Lancashire
McDonald Alexander Assistant Surgeon Terror ?
McDonald David Quartermaster 45 Terror Peterhead, Scotland
Morfin John Able Seaman 25 Erebus Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Murray John Sailmaker 43 Erebus Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Orren William Able Seaman 34 Erebus Chatham, Kent
Osmer Charles Hamilton Purser Erebus ?
Pearson (Paterson?) Alexander Corporal 30 Erebus Inverness
Peddie John Smart Surgeon Terror ?
Peglar Harry Captain of the Foretop 37 Terror London, Middlesex
Pilkington William Private 28 Erebus Kilrush, Clare, Ireland
Plater Thomas Stoker Erebus Westminster, Middlesex
Pocock Francis Able Seaman 24 Erebus Upnor, Kent
Reddington Phillip Captain of the Forecastle 28 Erebus Brompton, Kent
Reed William Private 28 Erebus Bristol, Somerset
Reid James Ice Master Erebus ?
Rhodes William Quartermaster 31 Terror Redding Street, Kent
Rigden James Captain's Coxswain 32 Erebus Upper Deal, Kent
Sait Henry Able Seaman 23 Terror Bognor, Sussex
Seeley Abraham Able Seaman 34 Erebus Gravesend, Kent
Sergeant Robert Orme Mate Erebus ?
Shanks William Able Seaman 29 Terror Dundee, Scotland
Sims David Able Seaman 24 Terror Gedney, Lincolnshire
Sinclair Robert Captain of the Foretop 25 Erebus Kirkwall, Orkneys
Sinclair William Able Seaman 30 Terror Galloway, Scotland
Smith William Blacksmith 28 Erebus Thibnam (Tibenham?), Norfolk
Smith Luke Stoker 27 Terror London, Middlesex
Stanley Stephen Samuel Surgeon Erebus ?
Stickland John Able Seaman 24 Erebus Portsmouth, Hampshire
Strong William Able Seaman 22 Terror Hampshire
Sullivan John Captain of the Maintop 28 Erebus Gillingham, Kent
Tadman Thomas Able Seaman 28 Erebus Brompton, Kent
Terry Thomas Boatswain Erebus ?
Thomas Robert Mate Terror ?
Thompson George Able Seaman 27 Erebus Staines, Berkshire
Thompson James Engineer Terror ?
Torrington John Leading Stoker Leading Stoker 19 Terror Manchester, Lancashire
Tozer Solomon Sergeant 34 Terror Axbridge, Somerset
Walker James Able Seaman 29 Terror Lo Shields, Northumberland
Wall Richard Ship's Cook 45 Erebus Hull, Yorkshire
Watson Thomas Carpenter's mate 40 Erebus N. Yarmouth, Norfolk
Weekes John Carpenter Erebus ?
Wentzall William Able Seaman 33 Terror London, Middlesex
Wilkes Henry Private 28 Terror Leicester
Wilson Alexander Carpenter's mate 27 Terror Holy Island, N. Durham
Wilson John Captain's Coxswain 33 Terror Portsea, Hampshire
Work Thomas Able Seaman 41 Erebus Kirkwall, Orkneys
Young David Cabin boy 18 Erebus Sheerness, Kent

 

[Catharine]

Hi
Not sure of the date of The Franklin expedition but this looks like William Wentzell in 1841
1841 Greenwich 489 10 14 21
William Wentzell 29 fisherman N
Hannah 28 N
William 2 y
Are we supposed to be tracking the family onwards?
Sons Charles John born 1.2.1842 and William Augustine 25.5.1845 at Greenwich

1911 census Charles John 69 and wife Clara 70, daughter Gertrude Annie 28 piece 2707 reg district 28 no 21

 

[Catharine]

Working back from the end of the list
1841 David Young 474 12 30 24 Isle of Sheppy
David Young 35,Maria 30,David 13,Thomas 10,John 8,William 6,Sarah 3 and George 8months
This is surprisingly difficult.
A couple of baptisms but no sign on census
Thomas Watson s of John and Ann nee Horn Yarmouth 15.2. 1806
John Shaw Torrington 10.12.1826 Manchester Cathedral s of William and Sarah.

 

[Catharine]

Stephen Samuel Stanley surgeon of Woolwich s of Micheal solicitor married 10.5.1845 Mary Windus St James Garlick London - no sign on census
Abraham Seeley s of Noah and Martha born 9.11.1810 Gravesend but not on census
Thomas Armitage 1841 Woolwich Dockyard 35 493 7 8 9
married 2.10.1825 Gillingham Cecillia Murray -family tree on ancestry
Sorry but just not finding them

 

[Margery]

Not sure of the date of The Franklin expedition

This ill-fated polar expedition departed England in 1845 in search of the Northwest Passage. There were two ships HMS Erebus and HMS Terror. The expedition was led by Sir John Franklin a noted polar explorer who had been Lieut Governor of Van Diemen's Land from 1836 to 1843. His wife, Lady Jane Franklin financed several searches to discover the fate of the expedition.

 

[Heather]

This is a possibility as there seems to be only one Thomas Burt, Wickham, Hampshire.......
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
George Burt Male 50 1791 -
Sarah Burt Female 36 1805 -
Thomas Burt Male 17 1824 Hampshire, England ( no occupation shown)
Margaret Burt Female 13 1828 Hampshire, England
Emma Burt Female 8 1833 Hampshire, England
Henry Cook Male 30 1811 Hampshire, England
Census details
Street Fareham Road
Parish or township Wickham County Hampshire Country England
Registration district Fareham
Archive reference HO107 Piece number 390 Book number 13
Folio number 35 Page number 12

 

[Heather]

Here is another possible.........................
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Richard Steele Male 65 1776 Not Known
Sarah Steele Female 60 1781 Not Known
Elizabeth Evans Female 22 1819 Kent, England
Thomas Evans Male 14 1827 Kent, England
Benjamin Evans Male 11 1830 Kent, England
Charles Evans Male 9 1832 Kent, England
Henry Evans Male 7 1834 Kent, England
Louisa Evans Female 3 1838 Kent, England
Census details
Street Flagon Row, North Side From North Street
Parish or township St Nicholas Deptford City or borough Greenwich
County Kent Country England
Registration district Greenwich
Archive reference HO107 Piece number 488 Book number 3
Folio number 33 Page number 18

 

[Heather]

And another?...........................
John Sullivan Male 25 1816 Kent, England (occupation Sea-Man)
Ann Sullivan Female 20 1821 Ireland
Margarett Sullivan Female 0 1841 Kent, England
Census details
Street Manor Street In Manor Court
Parish or township Gillingham City or borough Chatham
County Kent Country England
Registration district Medway
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 458
Book number 3
Folio number 14
Page number 21

 

[Bryman]

Am I missing something? What does this thread have to do with the latest newsletter (received 14/Jan)?
The previous issue was received 1/Jan and marked as [SUSPECTED SPAM] by Thunderbird.

I have just checked at the main LC site and found that there was another newsletter dated 20/Jan which did not reach me. Has anybody else been left off the distribution list?

 

[Catharine]

Hi
Got baptisms for
Alexander Berry 7.1.1813 Fife to john and Elizabeth Pryde
Henry James Brown 16.2.1819 Deptford s of Henry and Mary mariner

George William Chambers born 5.9.1827 Woolwich to Thomas and Jane rigger
1841 493 5 18 31
Thos chambers 50
Jane 40
Elizabeth 15
George 10
Matilda 10
Eleanor 10
Alexr 5
Willm 5
Charles 12 months

Charles Frederick Des Veux
1841 323 21 12 19
Charles 15 pupil Wanstead Beacontree Essex

John Diggle s of John and Pheobe Diggle.Married Mary Johnson 2.8.1834 Stoke Damerol,daughter Mary Ann Erebus Diggle 1839,other child John born 1828 at Halberton before their marriage.Nice family tree on Ancestry but again where oh where are they in 1841?

Francis Dunn Llanelly 1379 3 38 23
Francis Dunn 49 shipwright
Mary 43
Francis 21 shipwright
Mary 12
Joseph 15
Ann 13
Richard 11
Margaret 6
Elizabeth 3

James Fitz James 684 17 6 6 Middlesex St Pancras
James Fitzjames 25 Royal navy

 

[MarionK]

Am I missing something? What does this thread have to do with the latest newsletter (received 14/Jan)?
The previous issue was received 1/Jan and marked as [SUSPECTED SPAM] by Thunderbird.

I have just checked at the main LC site and found that there was another newsletter dated 20/Jan which did not reach me. Has anybody else been left off the distribution list?

I've also not seen a newsletter since 1 January.

 

[Heather]

John Diggle s of John and Pheobe Diggle.Married Mary Johnson 2.8.1834 Stoke Damerol,daughter Mary Ann Erebus Diggle 1839,other child John born 1828 at Halberton before their marriage.Nice family tree on Ancestry but again where oh where are they in 1841?

Cannot find John Diggle in 1841 but his wife Mary 20, son John 5 and daughter Mary Ann 1 are living with Mary's father John Johnson 50 (born Scotland) at 13 John Street, Stoke Damerol, Devon. In 1851 Mary 12 is still with her grandfather John Johnson 67, his wife Agnes 61 at the same address.

 

[Bob Spiers]

Am I missing something? What does this thread have to do with the latest newsletter (received 14/Jan)?
The previous issue was received 1/Jan and marked as [SUSPECTED SPAM] by Thunderbird.

I have just checked at the main LC site and found that there was another newsletter dated 20/Jan which did not reach me. Has anybody else been left off the distribution list?

What you describe happened twice to me in December and Peter assured me I was on the list and to check my end and particularly my Browser (Peter favours Chrome as you probably know). Meanwhile I found the Newsletters via LC and as I do not use a PC based mail reader I decided to set up 3 different browsers to read my email to see if the one I normally use was causing the problem. In the end the next Newsletter email just showed up in my browser of choice as it did in the other two browsers, so I was none the wiser as to what caused the problem, and it has not happened since.

I suspect there is a clue in the 'suspected spam' comment and although I checked to see if Peter's Newsletter email had been consigned to spam (it hadn't) I suspect that a similar 'blip' did occur previously and the email was consigned to the ether. Sorry can't be more helpful but Peter may have something to say on the matter.

 

[Bob Spiers]

I've also not seen a newsletter since 1 January.

Read my comment to Bryman which may help

 

[Bryman]

Peter assured me I was on the list and to check my end and particularly my Browser

What does this have to do with the Browser? The problem rests with the email client not receiving the newsletter notification email.

 

[Bob Spiers]

What does this have to do with the Browser? The problem rests with the email client not receiving the newsletter notification email.

Well I agree but as an email client is a computer program used to access mail, if it is not a PC based program it must be run within a browser window(e.g. Chrome/Firefox/IE or Edge) and accessed as webmail. I use different browsers for different applications, so Peter suggested I change the one used to access my webmail and see if that made a difference; which it didn't as I described.

In my case 2 Newsletter emails did not show in my webmail Inbox and despite experimenting with different browsers, successive Newsletter notification emails once again showed in my webmail program using my normal browser. The reason for the non appearance and re-appearance may lie in the geeky world of server/client protocols which I leave well alone.

I think we best let these off-topic comments rest for now as they divert from the original posting intentions.

 

[Norman]

I never use webmail. Much prefer to have my mails on my home equipment so they are available when I'm off-line. Maybe that's why I've never missed a newsletter.

 

[Heather]

Finding these people is not easy........................
I can only find one Henry Peglar and he is in prison in 1841
Maybe this is James Rigden, he is in Kent....................

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hoath, Heath, Blean, Kent, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Rigden Male 25 1816 Kent, England ( Ag Lab)
Eliza Rigden Female 20 1821 Kent, England
Emma Rigden Female 4 1837 Kent, England
George Rigden Male 2 1839 Kent, England
Mary Rigden Female 0 1841 Kent, England
Census details
Archive reference HO107 Piece number 467 Book number 7
Folio number 6 Page number 7